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the left, some of us went right. the title i examined what i learned in chicago, smaller government, lower taxes, and looking at competition and competitiveness and capital and technology formulations and particularly since i'm a technologies, it made sense. >> you've had affiliations with many, many schools over a long period of time. i want to focus on this hillary clinton thing, if i can for a moment. because you make it clear that as you say, when that ticket wasn't united, when obama did not select clinton to be his running mate, that really kind of did it for you. would it be fair to say that was the final straw, if you want to put it that way? >> yeah. i was looking at how we were going to test the value of diversity in the white house. that was a unique opportunity. when you look at the tenets of the democratic party and minorities and women, i thought that was a perfect opportunity. when we couldn't come together on that, i was confused. >> why wasn't the fact that you had barack obama, the first african-american nominee of a major party for president, why didn't that take precede
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